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Reasons to Love CommentLuv Blogs

CommentLuvCommentLuv blogs are blogs that allow commenters to leave behind not only the main link to their website, but also a link to their latest blog post as well below the main comment. They usually look something like this:

Kikolani´s last blog ..Twitter Direct Messages – Best (and Worst) Practices My ComLuv Profile

So why should you love CommentLuv blogs, and how do you get the most out of them as a commenter, blog owner, and blog reader?

CommentLuv for Commenters

The most obvious perk for commenters who have their own blog is that CommentLuv enabled blogs allow the commenter to not only leave behind a link to their blog, but also to their latest articles. Here are some tips on how to utilize CommentLuv as a commenter.

Register Your Site
The best way to utilize CommentLuv blogs for commenters is to first register your blog at ComLuv. Unregistered blogs are usually allowed to leave behind their latest post on a CommentLuv enabled blog, but registered blogs are able to select from their latest group of posts on most CommentLuv enabled blogs.

UPDATE: Be sure to check out the latest on the new version of CommentLuv 2.9 and even more reasons to love CommentLuv!

CommentLuvCommentLuv blogs are blogs that allow commenters to leave behind not only the main link to their website, but also a link to their latest blog post as well below the main comment. They usually look something like this:

Kikolani´s last blog ..Twitter Direct Messages – Best (and Worst) Practices My ComLuv Profile

So why should you love CommentLuv blogs, and how do you get the most out of them as a commenter, blog owner, and blog reader?

CommentLuv for Commenters

The most obvious perk for commenters who have their own blog is that CommentLuv enabled blogs allow the commenter to not only leave behind a link to their blog, but also to their latest articles. Here are some tips on how to utilize CommentLuv as a commenter.

Register Your Site
The best way to utilize CommentLuv blogs for commenters is to first register your blog at ComLuv. Unregistered blogs are usually allowed to leave behind their latest post on a CommentLuv enabled blog, but registered blogs are able to select from their latest group of posts on most CommentLuv enabled blogs.

Check Your Links
When you register, use your main blog feed URL vs. your FeedBurner URL. If you hover over your CommentLuv links and notice they are pointing to as opposed to the direct URL for your article, you will need to go into your FeedBurner account and under the feed’s Analyze tab, click on the Configure Stats under Services. Un-check the “Item link clicks — optimize for” box. This should change it to direct links to your article.

Leave Relevant Blog Posts Behind
Now that you have registered and have the ability to select from your recent posts, whenever you are commenting on a CommnetLuv enabled blog, try to select the article that is most relevant to the post you are commenting on. So if you are commenting on a blog article about Twitter, leave your most recent Twitter article behind if possible. Or if you commenting on a post about web hosting, leave your most recent article on managed dedicated servers behind. If most of the readers perusing through the comments are obviously interested in the same topic, which will make your blog article link stand out.

Leave Relevant Blog Posts from Other Sites
What if you have multiple blogs, and you have a post on another blog you would like to leave behind as your CommentLuv link, yet you still want to use your usual link in the comments? Simply enter the blog from which you want CommentLuv to pull a particular article from in the website URL. Before you submit the comment, go back and change the website URL to your normal one. After you enter the URL, don’t tab out of the field or click anywhere on the form but the Submit button, otherwise CommentLuv will pull an article from your normal one.

Please note that I am not advocating spamming. Let’s use this example. Most people know me as Kikolani and I typically link to as my main website during commenting. Now, if I am commenting on a post about link building, I still want to use my usual profile so people will recognize me, but I also want to leave a CommentLuv link behind to my link building resources post from my company’s blog. I feel that this is perfectly acceptable, especially since the link I’m leaving behind in CommentLuv is relevant to the post I am commenting on.

Leave Articles from Article Directories NEW!

What if you don’t own a blog, but you do write on sites such as HubPages, Squidoo, Bukisa, EzineArticles, GoArticles, or similar article networks and directories. You can now register your site on ComLuv and include one of your latest 10 articles with your comment on CommentLuv blogs. Learn more on how to promote your article marketing strategy with CommentLuv links.

CommentLuv for Blog Owners

So as a blog owner, what are the benefits of installing CommentLuv on your site?

Get More Comments

Bloggers love to be rewarded when making comments, and what better way to reward them by allowing them to add not only a link to their main site, but also to one of the latest articles! CommentLuv blogs (especially ones that are dofollow) generally get more comments.

Identify Good Comments

CommentLuv can help you spot good comments in a sea of spam. For example, when I am scrolling through my Akismet spam filter (that does grab very good commenters with valuable comments), the CommentLuv heart link tends to stand out.

CommentLuv Comments in Spam Filter

Please note – not all comments with CommentLuv links are good, and not all comments without CommentLuv links are spam. But I have found that the majority of good comments trapped in my spam filter are usually accompanied by CommentLuv links.

Make Comment Reciprocation Easier

If you are a blogger that enjoys visiting your readers’ blogs and leave comments, having CommentLuv installed on your site will give you a clue about which posts your readers have done recently or are most proud of, giving you a direct link to a post you can comment on.

CommentLuv for Blog Readers

So, let’s say you don’t own a blog or usually comment on posts, but nevertheless, you love reading blogs. What is the benefit of reading CommentLuv blogs?

Find Related Articles

Most bloggers who comment on CommentLuv blogs will try to leave behind a CommentLuv link on their site that is related to the blog post they are commenting on. So, say you are interested in personal development. Check out a CommentLuv enabled personal development blog. Not only will you find great articles about personal growth, but in the comments, you will probably find more personal development articles links via CommentLuv.

Of course, not all bloggers who comment will have a blog post that is 100% relevant to the blog post they are commenting on, but it may be helpful nonetheless. So you could be reading a CommentLuv enabled blog about blogging, and find article links via CommentLuv about SEO, social media, and other related topics.

Where to Find CommentLuv Blogs

Here are some places to find great CommentLuv blogs.

Why Do You Love CommentLuv?

Blog readers, commenters, and blog owners… do you have any additional tips for reasons why you use or seek out CommentLuv enabled blogs?

UPDATE: Be sure to check out the latest on the new version of CommentLuv 2.9 and even more reasons to love CommentLuv!

By Kristi Hines

Kristi Hines is a freelance writer, professional blogger, and ghostwriter who specializes in business and marketing topics.

166 replies on “Reasons to Love CommentLuv Blogs”

Always put together perfectly Kristi, I have been using the plugin ever since John Sullivan posted about it on his blog. I like how it creates and promotes community when utilized for that purpose, not to mention it makes it simple for me to find good articles when I go through my comments.
.-= Extreme John´s last blog ..27 Things Your Position Requires =-.

Great to remind people about CommentLuv. I’ve used it for over a year and I usually find new bloggers to read by clicking their blog post link.

Something you didn’t mention is the WordPress control panel for the plugin allows you to change the text displayed in the comment. While many bloggers, such as you I see, accept the default Kikolani’s last blog preface, I prefer the more readable New from Kikolani.
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That’s not a bad idea… I forgot you can customize that text. I might have to go in and change mine as well. Thanks for adding another great tip!

I have used commentluv in combination with dofollow plugins in the past. The problem is I saw a lot of spam. There were also a lot of one-hit-wonders. People commenting once just to get a link. I may try this again on my new photography site. This time I am going to try and not give the benefit of dofollow until they have at least 3-5 posts.
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Awesomeness 🙂 First thanks for the excellent comments you left on my blog. I’m so proud of you and watching you reaching higher each day 🙂
I was on Andy’s site yesterday and have been along time fan of Andy Bailey’s and the whole comment luv thing.He has some serious talent. Speaking of LUV I will be doing that bloggerluv soon. I added posterous to the domain to test it as a collaboration tool but will have to switch it back to wordpress 🙂 Thanks for asking.
I was just thinking I do have your name site on my blogs I like page but not this site.
I must go fix that now 🙂
Thanks for being such a great friend 🙂
Your awesome 🙂
.-= John Sullivan´s last blog ..Chris Brogan Trust Agent you are THAT GUY U GOOF =-.

CommentLuv indeed came a long way, it is a brilliant idea and further more rewarding commenters the exposures they deserved. I’m really impressed with Andy’s work, he even initiated the affiliate program and several modifications to improve existing service. I must say I love blogs that apply CommentLuv – I get to decide which site I’m interested in based on the link showed. What’s not to like? 🙂

Stumbled and RT-ed!

Social/Blogging Tracker
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Thanks for the tips. I followed your instructions and they worked perfectly. I can now drop down and select the blog post of my choice. I’d registered with CommentLuv but didn’t realize (dumb of me) that you had to tell it where you lived in order to get the dropdown menu.

The hardest part for me was figuring out where my feed url was. It’s under edit feed details if anyone has as hard a time as I do in finding such things.

Thanks again.
.-= Dwippy@DoFollow Blog List´s last blog ..PR 4 Blogs A-H =-.

CommentLuv is just amazing and I don’t know why other bloggers would not like to use it. I have actually asked a few and their main response is that they will lose some juice, that is a bit lame to me. It benefits outweigh the negatives. I’m not saying there are negatives, but some users would say otherwise.
.-= George Serradinho´s last blog ..December 2009 Flashback Report =-.

Excellent article Kristi. I really appreciated the tip on Leaving Relevant Blog Posts from Other Sites and also spotting relevant comments that have been grabbed by the spam filters. You certainly covered this nicely Kristi, thanks so much for for the link love under CommentLuv enabled Personal Development blogs. Very much appreciated!
.-= Jonathan – Advanced Life Skills´s last blog ..Time to Focus on Abundance Instead of Scarcity =-.

Hi Sandra,

I think it does probably affect it a little. All I really look at is the Views and Reach in Feedburner… granted, I don’t know which article had clicks without the specifics, but I notice the reach is higher on days when I post something new, and it shows me how many views each article has, so I can assume that most of the clicks to my site originated from the article with the most views.

Also, the CommentLuv link in this comment is going directly to your post, not the feedproxy URL, so it must be ok now. It probably won’t update comments you did prior to changing that setting, but anything from here on out should be fine.

I couldn’t get it to work ages ago so I gave up, but I’ve just had another go, so fingers crossed!

Love the blog and this is a great post. I added CommentLuv to my blogs almost a year ago and as well as it being a great concept it has really made a big difference to the exposure and comments on a number of blogs.
.-= Tony´s last blog ..Winter Hits The UK Hard =-.

Hi Kristi,

I love Comment Luv and the information in your post makes it even more appealing.

I went to the site you suggest and signed up. Being able to choose which post to enter in CL when commenting will be a great enhancement.

I wonder if you’ve ever considered the benefits of having Keyword Luv as well in addition to Comment Luv.

I installed it a few weeks ago and I’m glad I did.

People who comment like the feature and I certainly like it when commenting myself on other blogs.

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Commentluv is an absolutely great plugin and most bloggers who want to reward their readers for leaving a comment have it. Andy, the author, is also a great guy an always willing to help those having problems with it.

Seeing as how it scrapes the title of the chosen post it’s always a good idea to have a meaningful title.
.-= New from Sire Dragons Creatures Of Mystery =-.

Great post, very informative. Lots of great comments also.

I’ve used CommentLuv for several months and highly recommend it. I feel that it adds real value to my blog for the people who visit. A very good tool for helping to build community. Also helps visitors find other useful blog posts via the CommentLuv links that people leave.
.-= New from Mike @ Computer Tips Top 15 Computer Tech Tips of 2009 from HTS Tech Tips =-.

Great post Kristi, I only recently discovered CommentLuv and wasn’t aware of some of the features you listed, so it is even better now!

It absolutely is helpful for both parties involved, as well as other commentators that may see a title that fires up a need to click on it and discover something that they weren’t aware existed, so discovery is an added feature.
.-= New from Keith@ Blogger Luv Bloggers That Luv Back =-.

There really are many good reasons for using the CommentLuv plugin. Over the past year or two a fairly large community has built itself around Dofollow/CommentLuv/KeywordLuv and many bloggers often see a blog as “friendly to the cause” when they see one of these plugins. Not only does it provide backlinks, a lot of people have found blogs by following these links that they would never have found otherwise, and that’s a very valuable thing to happen. So thanks for writing about CommentLuv and spreading the word 🙂 Oh and regarding FeedBurner, I also recomment not using the tracking URL because then all the backlinks go to FeedBurner instead of to your actual site.
.-= New from Mark@Moving Companies Pittsburgh Pittsburgh Movers =-.

Great blog post on the CommentLuv plug-in and why it can be a great addition for blogs. Link building is definitely a huge part of building up your blog online, and I’m personally of the opinion that Google tends to show a little bit more favor to blogs that have comments and conversations going on. Thanks for this list.

I was very pleased to learn that I can install CommentLuv on my Blogger blog as a plugin to the Intense Debate commenting system. This has allowed me to override the disappointing “default” commenting system of Blogger.

It’s a great plugin and thanks for the listings. I’ll head over and check out some of those blogs today.


I was using blogger platform for my blog and attracted so much seeing other blogs that implemented commentLuv plugin. But I found it hard to implement commentLuv for blogger’s blogs. Now I’m happy. It is possible to use CommentLuv for your blogger account too! My comments are increased more than double after I used commentLuv.

Hello Kristi,

I came here via Google and have subscribed to your blog.

I’m glad to say that my technology & web blog, Digitivity, is now CommentLuv enabled.

For me, CommentLuv is a just a form of social reciprocation. On the other hand, expecting people to do something for you and not give anything in return (blogs that want people to comment and not give any link back) are practicing anti-social behavior.
.-= New from The Digital Life & Tools Blog How to Claim Your Blog on Technorati =-.

Second that. KeywordLuv is a great incentive for people go leave good comments. Off course you will get some spam comments as well, but those you will get anyway. Automated spam don`t care whether the site is dofollow or not, so where`s the point in having nofollow? You just end up missing out on good comments you would`ve got if you had made your site dofollow.

Every day I learn new things and tricks. I started blogging not so many days ago and am yet to catchup with the strategies. A friend of mined informed me about CommentLuv and how it can boost my blog ranking therefore I googled and your blog came out. Once again for thanks for this information.

Lately, I’ve noticed the little commentluv heart more and more. I used to use the plugin on my blog a couple of years ago, but there were some technical glitches at some point, so I stopped. I just started using it again today. I love the idea of it, so I’m hoping the glitches are long gone. (I’m assuming they are). I’ve also been noticing the keywordluv plugin lately, so I thought I’d try it out this once to see it in action. Not sure if I’ll continue to use it or not, just because it feels “wrong”. LOL.
.-= New from DazzlinDonna@make money online Marketing Your Site Via Website Directory Listings and Article Directory Submissions =-.

Hi Kristi
“CommentLuv can help you spot good comments in a sea of spam”
I noticed that when I went into my Akismet spam list.
As soon as you see that little red heart, you think, this is a real blogger with a real last post.
That wasn’t the reason I installed CommentLuv, I wanted more comments.

BTW will have to start thinking about KeywordLuv.. do you think it attracts more comments?
.-= New from Keith Davis@public speaking Practice, practice, practice… =-.

Well, I sure am glad I caught your guest post over on SEMG. I’ve now found two excellent posts here on your site that I’ve been able to learn a lot from.

I’ve seen CommentLuv before, but never really thought much of it. And I never had a clue about registering to be able to pick the post you’d like to see linked to. Thanks for sharing that.

It looks like I have some plugins to set up soon! I also have to investigate KeywordLuv. Haven’t heard much about it before, but I’ve seen it on at least one other blog. Still not sure what benefit it has but I’m gonna find out!
.-= New from LoneWolf Internet Marketing Gone Wild =-.

I love Commentluv because I am rewarded for leaving relevant comments on blogs I would be reading anyway.

Commenters are rewarded two ways in addition to getting to read great posts. First a link, dofollow or not, to your blogs home page and second a link that will in time become a deep link. We hear so much about deep links, deep links, deep links, and Commentluv is an easy and effective way to get those links. Of course, they only become deep links after you post enough to get them off the front page!

I am on my way to follow your links in the post and find more great blogs to read and contribute to.
.-= New from Keith@Norman Rockwell Art Apr 5, Rosie the Riveter, Norman Rockwell Saturday Evening Post Cover 1943 =-.

I have a question Kristi — where did you find the DOFOLLOW CERTIFIED graphic you have? I looked on the site and I can’t see it anywhere. I’d like to use it as well but I always like to make sure I’ve got the rights to use something before I put it up.

I’ve also done some research on KeywordLuv and it seems like a good idea too.
.-= New from LoneWolf@WWW Ramblings Internet Marketing Gone Wild =-.

It was on January 22 I commented on this post. Withing these days, I made a great shift. Went to Self Hosted wordPress blog and the look, feel everything changed. Hope you like the new appearance and functionality.

CommentLuv is always great and when I tried to install KeywordLuv I read it somewhere that the plugin is not availabe for new wordpress and won’t be supported any furrther. Is it true? How are you using keywordLuv, have you not upgraded your wordPress?
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Hi Suresh,

It does appear that KeywordLuv works in WordPress 3.0. I know of a blog that has definitely upgraded and it is still working.

The new CommentLuv default links are even better than using KeywordLuv (although we use both). You can read about how they work and where to get them in the post I’ll put in CommentLuv in this reply.

I commented here on this Blog 3-4 times and everytime my Post Link gets converted into…. 🙁

I Unchecked the Item Link Clicks checkbox, but still no change 🙁

I’m a little late to the party! Great blog and this is an awesome article about CommentLuv. Not only is it a great win-win tool but most of the women I connect with on a regular basis came via CommentLuv – either me leaving a link on their blog or vice versa. It’s a great asset to the blogosphere.

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I have been reading about comment luv vs disqus a lot. I installed disqus on my blog and it is obviously not working to help add comments. I think I am going to give comment luv a try since I have 0 comments, I have nothing to lose.

Kristi has done a great job of outlining how CommentLuv works and how to make it work for you. I often tell my new clients that new websites especially can benefit from the collerative attitude all of us Comluv folks share – to help one another through adding significant comments and being willing to allow them on our sites as well. I still see some folks try to abuse the system by leaving “nice site” and then using the benefits – but on my site, I don’t allow those comments. Be sure to offer helpful comments, advice, tips etc. to insure you help that website owner and their readers.
.-= New from Harmony – SEO Surrey Where to Use The First 10 Keywords =-.

CommentLuv is one of the most loved plugins for WordPress. For me, KeywordLuv & CommentLuv and NoFollow Free on comments is the best option for a website. However, another very good WordPress plugin is called Intense Debate and is very useful if you want to stimulate the comments on your site.
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[…] CommentLuv is a small plugin for WordPress (for Blogger blogs that have IntenseDebate comment system) blogging platform. CommentLuv adds an input area on comment form to enter website url. The love arrives from the fact that it will fetch the recent post from that URL and include as comment signature. This way, comment authors are able to link deep up to their blog posts. This is why most comment authors love commentLuv plugin as Kristi Hines explains “Reasons to Love CommentLuv Blogs”. […]

This is the most in depth guide to Commentluv that I have seen. I used to have CommentLuv and KeywordLuv enabled on my site, but I gave up after the level of pointless spam comments on my blog skyrocketed. People were just commenting without even reading the article which was aggrivating.
.-= New from Jonathan@Lifestyle Design in The Limelight How to Choose a Tarot Deck: The Limelight Way =-.

Hi Udegbunam
I think many of us comment on other sites in order to increase the number of comments on our own sites, but as you say… the comments must be relevant and hopefully add to the discussion.
I’ve just taken a look at your site (as a result of seeing your comment here) but have been put off leaving a comment by your large warning and link to “comment policy”, which issues further warnings.

I don’t have a comment policy but I do delete comments that are not related to the topic or are obviously spam.
.-= New from Keith Davis@public speaking Flying in formation =-.

I’m really sorry about that, Keith. It just so happens that I was getting tons of useless comments from page rank/backlink chasers so I decided to make things a bit difficult for them. 😉

Since you raised the issue, I hereby authorise you to disregard my comment policy and leave your meaningful comments. I’ll also add your url to my SEO Super Comments plug-in safelist.

How’s about that? 😉
.-= New from Udegbunam Chukwudi | StrictlyOnlineBiz Nigerians It’s Time We Forget About Paid Online Surveys =-.

I have to defend Udegbunam here. I completely understand his commenting policy, even if I don’t necessarily agree with it.

I gave up on CommentLuv, etc. It did absolutely nothing to encourage meaningful, and interesting comments. It ONLY bought me spammy, backlink farming junk from people who in almost all cases hadn’t even read the post in question.

I want people commenting based on my content, and that’s it. I want them to be compelled to comment because I wrote something that either inspired them, or pissed them off. I’m not interested in bribing people for comments.

I love commentluv simply because it allows me to find and connect with other bloggers. You generally have an idea of your fellow bloggers but when you get the random comment from a blog you haven’t heard yet, the link helps you immediately see what kind of topics they talk about so you can bounce over and explore their blog.

It’s great to share as it builds a better community by broadening all of our knowledge.
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I have been googling KeywordLuv to find blogs to post backlinks. I found this page this way. I have not install CommentLuv plugin but after reading all the comments about how great it is in getting traffic, I am going to try it on some of my blogs. The reason why I have closed comments on my blogs is I don’t have time to filter through all the spam comments. I think this page should be a good resource page to revisit and learn how bloggers use CommentLuv.

I have followed your advice to change the settings in Feedburner dashboard (not to track clicks) but still my CommentLuv link points to feedburner 🙁

Any idea how to fix this?

Hi Colleen,

The cost of default links has gone up since you last bought any but IMHO they are still a great deal. There is information about those links and how to use them in the post I’ll use in CommentLuv in this reply.

I would love to invite you into our blog collaboration. Besides Kristi we have 77+ members including several other serious real estate bloggers in it. You could all benefit. You can contact me through my blog for details and an invitation.

Well, at this point, after looking through about 20 Comluv enabled sites, and having yet to find more than 2 actual blogs of any worth, this one excepted as it actually has unscraped content, I’m still on the fence with Comluv. I’m hitting up enabled sites, testing the plug in, and seeing just how effective it as I compare stats. At this point, it looks as though Comluv is the only one really benefitting.

Kristi, You’re the 3rd blogger that I’m following that has CommentLuv installed on their blog. The clincher for me was today when I commented on a blog and the CommentLuv icon came up letting me know that if I were registered, more info such as my site description would show up. After reading this article, I installed the WordPress login and registered with the network. Thanks for the post.

Comment luv has been a great thing for my San Diego real estate blog. I’ve not been overwhelmed by spam comments, and it’s brought a lot of Realtors to the forum who I don’t think would have been there without a little link love.

CommentLuv is a great plugin. I have applied CommentPlugin on my blog instead of IntenseDebate. I have made my blog DoFollow and Commenting has been increased upto multiple times. Now I feel my blog is progressing. Thank you so much!

Good article – one thing I am unclear about is in your section ‘Check Your Links’

Can you tell by looking at my link below whether I am linking to the feed at feedburner or to my blog?


Yes I can see that it goes via feedproxy…

When I go to the feed’s Analyze tab > Services > Configure Stats, I can see “Item link clicks” but I don’t see an optimize for” box.

Instead I see “Track clicks as a traffic source in Google Analytics” with an option to ‘customise’ which if clicked opens up a large box headed “Customize Google Analytics Tracking” with various options that can be changed.

I wonder why I am not seeing “optimize for” and what exactly happens when the “Item link clicks” box is unchecked?

Kristi, I realized that my feeds were pointing to my feedburner account. I went into my member account on CommentLuv and changed the feed to point directly to my website. Will that correct it? I couldn’t find an Analyze tab in my
FeedBurner account to “click on the Configure Stats under Services”.

As always, thanks for your help!

The Analyze tab is usually the one you see first when you click on one of your feed items, and Configure Stats is the last option on the left side menu on that tab. I think the setting is now Item link clicks, which gives you more analytics information. I have that unchecked, but I’m also not that big into statistics when it comes to feed items. Maybe I should be, but at the moment, I’m just not.

It took me a while to get back here and finally figure out why I couldn’ find the Analyze tab. The reason I couldn’t find the “Analyze” tab was because I had to actually click on the title of my feed. Once I did that, I saw the statistics that are associated with it. Now I get it! 🙂 Thanks for your help both of you.

I’ve noticed that ever since I enabled commentluv on my blog I’ve been getting a lot more comments. I love that one simple plugin can help spark discussions in the comment area.

I’d like to point out a couple of things that I think are all ready quite obvious. Yes, I know, call me killjoy. You will when I am done.

The commentluv plugin pretty well addresses the problem of being a quality commenter yet having trouble getting your link allowed. We all as bloggers know quite well that we want comments, yet we do not want comments that at their core, are only intended to drop a link. We want to think that people address our posts because our content motivates that desire. We want to be popular. We want our blogs to grow. We want real poplularity.

Commentluv does not address the honest intention. It does not change any facts. It makes it easy to rationalize allowing the link and that is all it does; after all, it’s a fair trade right? No, it is not.

We are forgetting that GOOD blogs, GOOD content, quality posts, earn their audience. There is no magic bullet. There is no special software or novel scheme that will change that.

It should be clear to all by now, that commentluv is quite clearly yet another in a long line of marketing ploys designed to incite excitement, play upon underlying desires, and ultimately profit from those. Famous Bloggers and Comluv in particular have created a novel but ultimately obvious plan. Good for them. I applaude their initative.

Those who truly understand the value of quality content and sincere blogging know, comments should not require a plug in to make them worthwhile. Quality traffic is not built on gimmicks and nudge nudge wink wink schemes.

Your blog will do well, because it is a good blog period.

Frankly, I am done playing this game. I have wasted too much time as it is. When Comluv tried to play us into giving away free and very valuable advertising for its contest sponsors, I had my clue, and my validation. I can make $1,000 easy writing a couple articles. What do I care about a top prize of $750 for giving away promotion worth three times that? What is your blog, or rather your credibility, worth to you? Is poor traffic with a high bounce rate worth your audiences trust?

Disagree if you want, but before you do, all I ask is that you think about it. I no longer care. Pull my entry, and disqualify me. No loss. For the time that must be invested, for the required “bonus points” to be gained from promoting contest sponsors, I make wayy more just writing honest content.

I’ll gladly give up the whole 100 or so hits Commentluv represents over a two week period. I’m not interested in working my ass off for a 58% bounce rate and a poor traffic stream that will die when the contest is over.

~Paul Novak~
Take it how you will.

I really do write, because I want to.

I appreciate the part of my blog doing well because it is good.

I really do like CommentLuv for beyond just the contest, as this post was written a while before. I have seen a lot of quality traffic come from people simply clicking on my blog post links left behind in comments on other blogs, and I have found some great blog posts in my own comments using CommentLuv.

A lot of blog contests have been using the “link to ___ to win a prize” as a gimmick. This one does it in a much larger way, and for some (like myself) who don’t make as much article writing, it’s a fair trade – add a few links here and there to get on board.

Really, I haven’t fully promoted anyone sponsoring very strongly except the blog sponsors who are using CommentLuv on their own site (who I wrote a post about here), as many of them are other bloggers that I know and they do have a lot of good quality content on their sites.

Either way, it’s your opinion, and I respect it. It’s a shame that you haven’t seen positive traffic results coming from the comments. I have been commenting on the other contest entries, and have noticed that several of the contest entry authors have started following my writing here and on other sites via the comments, so even if I don’t win the main prize, I have made lots of valuable networking connections and gained readers through the contest, which makes it very valuable overall. If the trade is linking to the sponsors, it seems like it has been a good one for me, but maybe not so much for others.


First of all I really appreciate your opinion Paul,

There is nothing wrong if you share your comment, and I don’t think that Kristi will delete it or anything from that!

But what I see here is that you didn’t get it!

Our contest is not about streaming huge traffic to your blog, it’s a chance for you to find new reader, but you are saying you wasted your time, and this this happen with you because you are on the wrong page!

The 58% bounce rate is because of your content, I mean what you will say to someone who visit your blog and just leave?!! I really don’t see any reason for your complain regarding this point!

I also checked your blog and recent posts, almost all your posts has no more than 3 comments! while those posts that has some comments is the ones you published after participating in the contest, and this means you are getting benefits, but you just don’t want to admit it, and you don’t understand that you have to work hard to engage with those people you have met during the last 2 weeks, people are dying to get 100 visits to their blogs!

Your post in the contest got 75 comments! let’s say 40 comments because your own replies… do you have any post that got this attention on your blog?! nope! I don’t think so!

If you think that you can win the contest, or get comments on your blog, or grow your readership, and be popular….etc. just by entering one single blogging contest and from the first time, and then complain about it, then you will not go anywhere!

If you can make $1000 by writing a couple articles that easy, then you have done a mistake by participating in the contest because simply it’s NOT for you! it’s for someone else who can not earn what you earn that easy!

That was my opinion!

Thank you Kristi.


I most certainly do “get it”. That is why I have removed the Comluv plugin from my site. Comluv produces poor quality traffic, encourages comments purely for the sake of link dropping, and I do not agree with the contests attempt to exploit its participants. Anyone who directly promotes any of the sponsors is doing themselves a grave disservice.

No, the 58% bounce rate IS NOT because of my content. My true average bounce rate fluctuates between 45 and 30%. Not stellar, but respectable for a blog not even six months old and running purely on content driven interest and no gimmicks.

Examples of source bounce rates are….Organic traffic averages 39%, Linkedin traffic averages 30%, E-mail campaigns are 19%, and direct traffic from Comluv is 73%. Further, before participation in the contest, my rate was the aforementioned 30-45%. Since participating, the rate has climbed to 58%. My traffic spiked during my participation in the contest, showing a quick increase represented by the extra hits as I made rounds commenting to Comluv enabled blogs and those blogs visitors stopped to check me out.

This tells me a great deal. It tells me that Comluv does nothing to improve the quality of traffic. It also tells me that many of those who did leave comments did so out of self interest. It tells me that my own principles of commenting relevancy and quality produce more and better traffic, making Comluv irrelevant and unneeded. Further, since Comluv has degraded my traffic quality, it represents a negative impact on my site making it harmful rather than helpful.

“almost all your posts has no more than 3 comments! while those posts that has some comments is the ones you published after participating in the contest, and this means you are getting benefits, but you just don’t want to admit it,”

This is incorrect. First, most of the comments that appear on my site are unrelated to Comluv. I am a member of a blog community that has effectively produced regular visitors who comment, I am on Linkedin and a member of a blog group which also represents several regulars and their comments. Both of those were joined during the same period as my contest participation and I know those commenters from my interaction with them elsewhere.

In addition, either of those sources have produced far more traffic and comments than commenting on Comluv enabled sites. Comluv commenters represent only a tiny number of the total comments. Oh, and some of my posts have more than 3 comments, so there;)

Comparing my contest entry’s comment totals is irrelevant as it is gamed. ALL of those comments were generated not because of the content, but because of the contest.

Seriously though, my biggest problem is the exploiting of contest participants in an effort use them for free promotion of your advertisers. That was a serious mistake, and it never should have been included in the contest. People work very hard to build their blogs and communities, and if ANYONE wants promotion, it should be done in the best interests of the blog owner in the form of monetary compensation or mutual benefit. Some of those blogs in the content are decently ranked, and your sponsors would normally have had to pay them a nice rate for promotion.

I don’t know how many have decided to give that free promotion, but I know well that many may not even realize what promotion on their blog is really worth. But I KNOW that you folks at Comluv and Famous Bloggers know very well what it is worth and knew exactly what you were doing when you made it a part of the contest for “bonus points”. If five bloggers in the contest promoted only 5 of the sponsors each on their blogs, that would represent THOUSANDS of dollars worth of free advertising. That’s not right. In fact, it is downright shady.

I made a small reference to it in one of my blog posts when the contest first told everyone to promote the sponsors to gain bonus points. I almost ripped into it on your site big time to be honest, but I decided I did not want the grief. Then I see on Comluv that it is being enthusiastically pushed that participants should promote ALL of the sponsors on their blogs. I knew then that it was necessary to speak up. And I have.

I am not complaining because I expected Comluv to make me popular or anything of the sort. I did not expect it to be some great traffic builder. I entered for the heck of it, and I am criticizing it because it produces poor quality traffic, increased my bounce rate, and because the participants are being exploited by the contests organizers.

In reply to Paul’s comments I would like to explain that he and I have fundamentally different viewpoints on the purpose of links, blogs, comments and the relationship between bloggers and their commentators.

First, some of us have no desire “to be popular.” Of what substantive value is “popularity”?

I agree that good blogs earn their audience.

I do NOT agree that Andy’s purpose in creating CommentLuv was a marketing ploy. Bloggers who use CommentLuv need to understand that it consumes enormous, costly resources and is certainly not making anyone rich.

Andy is VERY concerned that CommentLuv be used only for the benefit of everyone involved. We regularly discuss the fine line that must be walked regarding what is best for casual bloggers and what can benefit everyone collectively.

CommentLuv allows us to more quickly know who we wish to interact with and share what is important to us with the regular readers and commentators of the blogs we visit. Instead of individual bloggers sitting in their blogs waiting for visitors it creates communities of bloggers who go read each other’s blogs.

While YOU may be able to make $1000 easy YOU are the exception. Most bloggers make very little or no money at all. Even many very visible, active bloggers make next to nothing. For those bloggers, the cash offered in the FamousBloggers CommentLuv contest could make a real difference.

Every participant gets much more from this contest than the possibility of winning cash. They get visibility that could take some of them years to obtain if they ever did. They have met bloggers who are willing to assist them to reach their goals much faster.

The relationships that have developed have led to collaborations that will lead to success – however they choose to define it.

Now let’s move on to the value of links and sponsors and how collaborating provides mutual benefits to us all. This is territory I am continually attempting to raise awareness about because our upside-down economic values are what is destroying our economy and those who choose to change their beliefs and actions hold the solution.

What is wrong with our economy is that only those who are already successful can afford to buy advertising to get a business prospering. The contest sponsors are other bloggers and small businesses are are NOT wealthy.

They are putting up their hard-earned money to support the blogging community and for doing that they receive some links and exposure that may or may not result in a single nickel coming into their businesses. THAT is the financial bottom line to being a sponsor.

What most people do not know is that most advertising does NOT produce a positive ROI (return on investment). That means that most small businesses can not afford to buy it because it doesn’t pay for itself.

In this system the haves get richer and richer and fools that we collectively are we have handed our future to the wealthy elite who take more with each passing day. For those willing to understand this I offer my post about Why Word of Mouth is better for us all. It includes statistics on how our current economic system has lined the pockets of the few.

The solution is to support small local and online businesses and that includes blogs! I know that most don’t see that and don’t know why shopping at big box stores create poverty and famine but that does not change the fact that it does. Anyone interested in knowing more can read the post I’ll put in CommentLuv in this reply or ask me. I am happy to share.

Now back to the contest. Neither CommentLuv nor FamousBloggers received any money from the sponsors. The only money that comes out of what was donated covers PayPal fees. It is an enormous amount of work to run a contest like this.

No one is being taken advantage of because everyone benefits as equally as that is possible. Only a small percentage of CommentLuv-using bloggers care about bounce rates or even know what they are. The only blogs I can think of that would care about bounce rates or a “poor traffic stream” sell advertising – and again, most blogs using CommentLuv don’t make money.

Readers who arrive at a blog due to a contest or giveaway ARE less likely to read other content because your blog may not be specific to their interests. That said, SOME of the visitors WILL be interested in what you write and become your regular readers and commentators.

If you are going to be so serious about using analytics data you need to consider all the variables involved. New visitors from non-search traffic are going to generate a higher bounce rate. So what? (That is a serious question. Why does that matter to you? A temporary increase in bounce rate in exchange for new regular readers would seem to me to be a reasonable trade.)

It was MY idea to offer OPTIONAL bonus posts because that benefits those who sponsored the contest and creates relationships between them and the bloggers which can benefit all of them in the future.

It just occurred to me why you are unhappy and I wish to take 100% responsibility for that. Since we have almost 40 diverse sponsors including other blogs and anyone could still win by focusing on commenting and promoting and never do a single bonus post I felt the bonus posts were a good idea.

Neither Andy nor Hesham saw any downside at the time. I suspect you believe that not writing posts about sponsors put you at a disadvantage or that is an easier way to win. In hindsight I see that could make some participants unhappy and again I want to take full responsibility for proposing that addition to the contest.

I clearly understand the importance of incoming links and supporting small local and online businesses – especially with the current economic challenges.

How much a blog post about anything can be sold for varies widely. I have seen bloggers who accept as little as $7 for a post, a few dollars for a link, up to an average of maybe $30 for an original post to a high of $250+ on a blog that has enormous traffic.

For most of the participating bloggers they might receive say $30 if they knew a business willing to pay for a post. Thousands of dollars you say? Perhaps you can share with the bloggers where all those businesses are that want to pay them huge sums for writing about them.

I wish you had raised the issue when the bonus points were first announced or taken it up with me. I wrote that post. I’m not sure why you chose Kristi’s blog to comment about instead of ComLuv or FamousBloggers or even GrowMap.

One other thing… contestants are NOT required to publish their bonus posts on their own blogs. I publicly offered to publish them at GrowMap in the post that announced the bonus points so that any blogger who preferred not to have content of that kind would not be disadvantaged. Donna and Stephanie have both taken me up on that offer and you could too if you were interested.

My experience with the contest is different than Paul’s experience. I started it to learn about blogging. My blog started in mid-January on GoDaddy Quickcast platform. I found the contest and entered it. Based on observation, and what others could do with their blog appearance and performance and I could not, I migrated to WordPress and to Hostgator. I had to bring the new blog up fast. I have learned a lot and gotten almost double the twitter followers and many new followers. I have had fun and been challenged while learning a lot about blog design and performance. I have also, unexpectedly, found myself doing well in the contest.

I have done a lot of sponsor posts. The first three I did on my blog. Since I do some product reviews, I picked sponsors I felt fit in with my blog or gardening. Gail and Hesham offered everyone the opportunity to use their blogs for posts that do not fit in with the person’s blog. I saw this as an opportunity to practice copywriting. Now I have samples to show prospects that I did not have before.

From my perspective, I have received a good deal of knowledge and the opportunity to play with the big dogs — not something I would normally have gotten. My goals have changed. I now hope to successfully win the contest as well as build a successful network of garden blogs, make some money on a continuing business marketing and copywriting, and maintain my developing relationships with some other contestants. I suppose if I started the contest as one of the big dogs, I might have other concerns. But starting from very little I see that with a lot of work, I can come far in a short time.

Popularity is substantive because it represents the “success” of a blog. This is not popularity in the “coolest kid in class” meaning of the word, but the back links that are gained, visits, and community interaction that occurs on a blog. In this sense, popularity is very important. I have little doubt that you would not be happy at all Gail if your blog was not “popular”.

The entire premise according to you and Comluvs creators behind the contest and the Comluv plugin is to send visitors to a site and increase their readership correct? That’s “popularity”.

The point behind mentioning that I can make more money from writing a few articles was intended to underscore the fact that the prizes mean nothing to me, and to illustrate how even the top prize is nothing compared to the value of the advertising that participants are being asked to give away. Yeah, the top cash prize of $750.00 might seem great to the winner, as long as they don’t realize how much more valuable all the promotion they did was.

Your numbers do not even come close to the actual average rates for promotion on a well ranked site, and I can see why you would want readers to think they are so low. $30.00 MIGHT get you a text link in a side bar for a month, $50-100.00 a 125×125 sidebar banner,$250.00 wouldn’t even come close to getting you a full 600-1000 word promo with proper links. Think about 2-3 times higher. What you can make depends in large part on your site, traffic, and abilities. Sure, I’ll write a 450 word post for someone to use on THEIR blog for $40. But promote and advertise them on MINE? Whole nother animal.

Ultimately, I’ll simply say that rather than anyone listen to either of us on that matter, they should instead find a few heavily trafficked sites and ask them what they will charge for a one post 600 word promotion with a permalink. I guarantee it will open some eyes. The point is, just because these contest participants may not be highly ranked and influential, YET, does not make them deserving of exploitation.

I don’t think you are giving participants much credit at all here. In fact, it’s a bit insulting to say that most don’t know anything about bounce rates or even care about the quality of their traffic. While I cannot speak for “most” bloggers, I can say that it is my experience that most of those I interact with on a regular basis, even those new to blogging, have at the least a rudimentary understanding, and those who have been at it more than 6 months comprehend it pretty well.

Contrary to the idea that only monetized sites would worry about the quality of their traffic, most new bloggers might not understand the nuances of traffic totals, but they do know that they want traffic that produces their desired results whether that be comments, the creation of backlinks and exposure, or acting on a call to action. They inherently understand that they want quality traffic, not hit and runs, which high bounce rates represent.

I understand analytics pretty well and thank you. I do realize the trends associated with different traffic sources. Analytics are so critical, because it allows site owners to monitor and evaluate the performance of their efforts, identify what sources are producing the most return on their efforts, and which ones are not. They can then better tailor and target their efforts. It matters to me, and just about anyone running a site because it tells them whether or not what they are doing is working, and if it is worth the effort they are expending. In my own contest entry, I focused on the fact that comment efforts are best directed at blogs with relevant subjects and active communities. Why do you think that is? Just a guess? Or did I already understand the relationship between relevancy and quality traffic due to my use of analytics?

I have no idea where you are getting the idea that advertising produces poor ROI. That is just plain false. If that were true, there would be little advertising anywhere. Advertising is lucrative, when done properly. A well executed ad campaign can put an unknown onto the map overnight. I have run more than one business and know intimately the effectiveness of advertising and I am not buying the idea that we are somehow obligated to do our part to help the struggling economy by giving it away. That’s one hell of a reach and very poor justification in my opinion. I can see that you would want it to appear as though there is little value in advertising and why, after all, why would anyone give it away if they knew its real value? And how would they feel after being used to do it and then realizing what they gave away for a pittance? I’m glad you are taking responsibility for encouraging participants to give away free promotion for your sponsors. It was a bad idea, and pretty audacious.

I make my living writing Gail. Don’t make the mistake of thinking I am ignorant because my blog is nothing. I am far from it. I did not contact you, or anyone about my concerns because frankly, the nature of the problem did not suggest to me that any of you are amenable to dropping the idea of using contest participants like zombie PCs to produce large amounts of free exposure for your sponsors. I brought it here because Kirsti is far enough removed to allow a more honest discourse, and knowledgeable enough to call BS when she sees it. She has a good readership, and these concerns are worth some exposure. No worries about disappearing posts or heavyhanded moderation. I am subscribed to every single place I make a comment, and after some consideration of the notifications I receive from her site, decided her place was it. If it’s disagreeable to her, all she needs to do is say so and I will take it elsewhere.

The thousands of dollars is reference to the sum total of all the advertising revenue possible if 5 entrants promoted 5 sponsors each and not all those businesses “that want to pay them huge sums for writing about them” as you disingenuously put it. For example, if each blogger wrote 5 posts for sponsors at $100.00 each ,then that is $500.00 worth of promotion per blogger, (which is low and not realistic btw) and there are 5 bloggers doing it, then that is 25 blog posts at 100 apiece and $2,500 dollars. In reality, if they each had good rank and could charge a real rate, they’d get more, and no I am not going to send anyone running to anyone I write for. That would just be foolish. As I said earlier, interested parties merely have to find some well ranked sites that carry ads and promos, and ask them what it would cost to have it done.

No one has to take a single thing I am saying as gospel. They can ignore it, and enjoy whatever benefit they receive from the contest and the plugin without any worry. None of this will kill anyones blog. I simply think they should know what it is they are being asked to do.

Thanks again Kirsti. In case it matters, it will be awhile before I can reply again as I have work to take care of and would rather be able to give this subject full attention instead of hurried replies.

Hello Paul,

It is clear that we move in different circles; however, I actually move in multiple circles and the amounts I quoted are amounts I know businesses have actually paid and bloggers have actually received.

That advertising often fails to produce positive ROI is based on input from businesses who once did buy a lot of it and stopped because it was not paying off in a measurable manner. Whether advertising is a viable method for business success depends on many variables, not the least of which is the size of the business and who their target audience is.

No doubt it does pay off for Dell, Coca-Cola, Home Depot and other national or International Corporations but it is highly unlikely to pay for itself if a business is small and especially if it only sells locally.

There are far too many generalizations in this discussion. As you so accurately did mention, “What you can make depends in large part on your site, traffic, and abilities.” You also mention “well-ranked” and “heavily trafficked sites” but those are too generic and would need to be defined.

My comments about what bloggers do or do not already know are based on one-on-one interaction with them in the SBC forum I co-moderate, at BloggerLuv and elsewhere. Many popular bloggers with PR4-6 sites and 10,000-30,000 followers at Twitter were not familiar with proper use of anchor text and do not have training in web analytics.

Few blogs are as well thought of or popular as this one and few bloggers more knowledgeable than Kristi Hines and Donna Fontenot aka DazzlinDonna, yet both of them chose to participate. I know them well enough to know that they don’t feel we are taking advantage of them. No one made anyone participate.

I am going to make a leap here and suggest that it is highly unlikely that any of our sponsors has ever paid even $100 for a blog post much less $250 or $750 as you suggest the going rate is for whatever businesses and sites you have in mind.

Most of the blogs involved in this contest have nowhere near enough traffic or low enough Alexa numbers to command anywhere near those types of income. If there are people willing to pay such sums to bloggers that I know I would gladly tell them. I am not aware of any. The best I know of right now are some $30 per post opportunities.

I am NOT suggesting that we should give our work away because of the economy. I am suggesting that the economic model of charging for advertising is not in the best interests of the majority because it contributes to a world where only the already rich can succeed.

Even if the economy were good I would still be a strong advocate of freely recommending people, products and services that we sincerely believe in and patronizing only businesses that give back and have high ethical standards and support sustainable practices and Fair Trade for all.

I have been accused of not moderating enough but never of not giving everyone their say. You have made many assumptions about the kind of people Andy, Hesham and I are without truly knowing any of us. We are the very last people to take advantage of anyone. I am sincerely sorry that you have such a negative impression which appears to be based almost entirely on those assumptions.

Apparently there is no amount of reason that will get through.

As I said, all anyone needs to do is check for themselves.

You took a contest, and used it’s participants to create free advertising for it’s sponsors that normally costs money, period. The entire point behind that is not to enhance the competition, or create challenge, but to improve the net value of Comluv and Famous Bloggers. The contest should be about blogging, not who can do the best job of giving free advertising.

Good luck with it.

Hello again, Paul,

Where would you have “anyone”…”check for themselves”. I have already stated that I am not aware of any businesses willing to pay bloggers I know the amounts you are claiming are available for the level of traffic they currently have.

I’m sure we would all be happy to know about these great opportunities. We can not check for ourselves if we don’t know where they are. I regularly interact with people who have been online for decades, who have PR4-PR6 blogs and who have 10,000-30,000 followers on Twitter and none of them is being paid what you are claiming.

I know one person who is paid 1000 pounds per creative but he is the best linkbaiter in the business and it took many years for his work to generate that kind of demand. Proven copywriters can easily charge hundreds or even thousands of dollars per project based on their open and conversion rates but they are not the bloggers in our contest.

Except for you, those who are participating who have interacted with me feel they have gotten a lot from the contest. They have met new people, learned new skills, and increased their Twitter followers and subscribers.

In YOUR world advertising must cost money; in my world that is not true. I am not the only one who advocates Word of Mouth as a better alternative – better for the consumer and better for the businesses.

The primary beneficiaries of the existing business model are Fortune 500 companies and those businesses and sites who cater to them. That does not include any of the sponsors or bloggers participating in our contest – except possibly you. It specifically does not include me because BY CHOICE I only work with small local and online businesses.

I’m truly surprised by your lack of knowledge regarding advertising rates considering you run a blog about marketing. I also have to say that your less than credible replies are not doing much to refute the basic crux of the issue, which is that you are taking gross advantage of contest participants in what is supposed to be a blog competition and not a promotion competition. Perhaps if you had labeled it a promotional blog post competition it would appear more forthright.

“Where would you have “anyone”…”check for themselves”.

They can check it, where I stated clearly that all one needs to do is ask a successful site owner or three how much it would cost. Just about any serious marketer knows that although it’s not the most recommended way to do business, one of the best ways to compete is to know what your competition is doing. In this case, a simple query as to how much a promotional post of 600-800 words with a permalink would cost would suffice.

But since you seem unwilling to bend, concede, or do the work yourself, I’ll do it for you. $200.00 MINIMUM for a permalinked promotional post, Banner, and a permalink at the end of articles, PER WEEK. Hence, one month would be AT LEAST $800
All Featured promotion averages over $1000-2000 per month.

Those are only two quick examples, which took me all of a couple minutes to find with Google. Let’s not forget, you are asking that contestants write at last 20 promotional posts.

Which is pointless really, because it means absolutely zilch. No one doubts that low level bloggers such as myself and those in the contest won’t be able to command top rates. However, that does not remove the value they place on their blogs, or their hard work, of the fact that were they to seek the same sort of advertising for themselves, it would cost them money.

The point remains; you chose to use the contest to take advantage of the large amount of exposure, link-backs, and SEO that having 20 or so contestants providing promotion would create. The point is not how much they could make doing it. The point is that you are using them to get it for free and inflate Comluv and Famous Bloggers own presence and value when it would normally cost those sponsors and yourselves money. You were not content to get the free links and an entry post that were required upon entry, you decided to go for the whole package and encourage full promotion of every sponsor, and baited it with suggesting it was worth “bonus” points.

Perhaps what is really disconcerting here is how little thrift you are giving to the bloggers involved in this contest. After your last two posts, it has become quite obvious that not only do you not think they are of much value, but would justify getting that work out of them on the basis that they wouldn’t be able to charge much anyways.

The supposed point behind this contest and Comluv is to elevate and assist bloggers in their growth and the expansion of their blogging knowledge, yet it appears for all intents as though you are more interested in protecting an investment and keeping them blind to the realities behind building an effective web presence.

I have no such concerns, and am entirely willing to tell anyone interested the truth. That truth happens to be that they are not of little value, they have as much potential as anyone, and no one has any right to treat them as though their efforts aren’t worth much anyways, so it’s ok to exploit them.

“In YOUR world advertising must cost money”

No. In the real world advertising costs money, and it is the single most effective way to establish presence, create large scale exposure, build authority, and generate revenue. But you already know this don’t you, else you would not have made it such an integral part of the competition. No one here is denying the power of WOM. In fact, I have discussed the subject as recently as a week ago, and the consensus is that it is certainly an excellent source of revenue building. I agree. But it is severely limited as well. And this is not WOM. This is direction promotional advertising, which you obviously felt was valuable enough to make a part of the contest.

However, I have owned and run more than one business for many years. I have engaged in advertising campaigns. My spouse is a partner in her own business, and as well regularly manages advertising for their company. In the latter case, the absolute MINIMAL advertising has cost been $650.00 per month. However, the returns as averaged against increased patronage and receipts easily double that outlay.

Not only is advertising effective, it is lucrative, and not just for giant corps which you incorrectly asserted. I know personally, and just about anyone else who has run an ad campaign will as well, that there is no better way to promote than through well chosen paid advertisements.

Again, this means nothing in regards to taking advantage of contest participants to create a heck of a lot of free promotion that on the web, accounts for a great deal, which I am sure you already know as well. You are justifying, evading, and denying, and nothing more Gail.

Tell everyone Gail. Your sponsors get a ton of back-links, a great SEO boost, full spread active promotion across a very large and diverse social dynamic, and what do the contestants get? A few new readers, maybe? And a chance to win $750.00, or a couple hundred bucks, in exchange for helping to produce thousands of dollars worth of promotion and a healthy bump in Comluvs net worth?

Call me crazy. It sounds a bit skewed don’t you think? But heck, no one would pay them anything for their efforts anyways so who cares if they give it away right?

It is obvious that we are going to have to agree to disagree on this. We see this as a winning idea for everyone involved. You don’t.

There are some serious inaccuracies in your latest comment that need to be addressed:

You wrote: “you are asking that contestants write at last 20 promotional posts.”

That is definitely untrue. Contestants MAY write totally OPTIONAL posts about any sponsor if they choose and publish them on their own blogs or at GrowMap or FamousBloggers. NO ONE is required to do so and anyone can win without ever writing a single sponsored post.

Until the deadline had passed, they could have instead submitted multiple entries if they want to increase their chances of winning without doing any sponsored posts and even now they could still win by doing more promoting. Someone could win with only one entry if they commented in a lot of CommentLuv blogs whose owners then returned the favor (which is common but obviously not guaranteed).

The totally optional posts about sponsors were announced in this post at ComLuv.

Let’s talk facts here. Any site can ASK for any amount they choose but that is a far cry from them actually being paid what they “charge”. That a PR3 site like might publish such rates (which we can not confirm because their site will not load at all right now) does NOT mean there are businesses willing to pay their asking price. is a PR6 site and might be able to command those rates but the only PR6 site involved in the contest that I am aware of is ComLuv itself. All participants receive links FROM that PR6 site to their blogs which benefits them more than it benefits ComLuv.

There are quality businesses that don’t have $650/mo. minimum to spend on advertising. There are quality blogs that are not PR6 yet. That is another world away from their current reality. If you are moving in that world – which would not be apparent by anything online related to you – congratulations on your success.

You said, “It sounds a bit skewed don’t you think?” No, I do NOT think it is skewed in favor of advertisers. Yes they get a least one link from each participant and that MIGHT move them onto the first page at Google. (Links from unrelated sites are not nearly as valuable as related links.)

IMHO, the bloggers get just as much if not more from participating. Nothing you can say will change my mind about that. Anyone who wants to know more about where I stand and what my ethics are can easily tell by what I write.

I am the first person to admit that the DoFollow CommentLuv KeywordLuv community that Kristi and I belong to has different values than traditional business. We are live and let live kind of people so we’ll let you do your thing and we’ll do ours.

I have much else to do besides answering comments and I’m not into controversy for the sake of increased traffic, so I apologize to you in advance if I do not have the time to answer any future replies.

“If I were eligible to compete in this contest, the number one thing I would do is write one or more blog posts about a contest sponsor and then go visit all my favorite blogs and feature that post in CommentLuv.”

Yes, totally optional, and highly suggestive as well. I never said it was mandatory, only that it was wrong. I said you highly encouraged participants to do it. Yes, you said that anyone can win anyways, however, you also said the first thing YOU would do, is write promotional posts for sponsors. Not only that, but you suggest spreading that promotion around as much as possible. What’s a participant to think? You might as well put a billboard on their backs and give em a smack on the rear to send em down the road.

You, one of the promoters of the contest, say YOU would do it, and repeatedly. You also say they are worth “bonus points”. So, why would anyone think for a minute that it really isn’t important, or necessary? Instead, the implication is that if you want to win, it’d be best to do it. I will admit I am not sure which post contains it, but I am fairly certain you also stated that you would encourage participants to write about every sponsor on the list.

So no, no inaccuracy at all, as shown by your own statement at the top of this post.

“Let’s talk facts here. Any site can ASK for any amount they choose but that is a far cry from them actually being paid what they “charge”.”

This is why I dislike debating online. No matter how many times you support, prove or demonstrate, it is always too easy for the other side to equivocate. And you have done this a great deal. You insist something is wrong, you are shown it is not, you then ignore the original point rather than conceding that you are simply wrong.
You know why they ask that rate. Because they can, because people pay it, because it is worth it. Because although rates are highly variable, there are some accepted pricing methods based on site rank, reach, traffic, etc.

Do I have to provide a list? I pulled those up in seconds with Google. Anyone can. You should keep that in mind. I told you clearly, I myself have run more than one business, my spouse currently co-owns one as well, and we both have done quite a bit of research involving the merits of advertising, it’s costs, and the most effective mediums and methods. I even gave you a direct dollar amount of the minimum it costs for my spouses business, and told you it is a lucrative return. You are not debating with an ignorant Gail. You are arguing with someone who HAS DONE IT.

“ is a PR6 site and might be able to command those rates”

At least you now admit, I was RIGHT, and a WELL RANKED site can ask the rates I said were possible, which you originally stated WERE NOT. You should also note, that those rates are minimums Gail. A PR 3- 4 site can easily ask over $100.00 monthly just for a 125×125 banner in the above fold portion of their sidebar, and get it. Would you like proof of that as well, or are you willing to concede that maybe, JUST maybe, you are wrong?

I have spent a great deal of time researching and learning about the monetization aspect of websites so that when I am ready, I can make a proper job of it myself. I have spent a great deal of time studying rates for advertising and promotion. I can provide a long list of rates and variables. I think however that should not be necessary by now.

“All participants receive links FROM that PR6 site to their blogs which benefits them more than it benefits ComLuv.”

Actually, with the Comluv plugin, that is highly doubtful. First, assuming the links are Do-follow, that juice is spread among ALL outgoing links. Google does not assign a set amount, at least as far as anyone knows and judging by the hard to measure improvements. However, it is generally agreed upon that sites which are selective in their use of do-follow and rank well provide much better benefits for the few do-follow links they allow. Comluv however is getting major exposure and link backs.

“If you are moving in that world – which would not be apparent by anything online related to you”

You’re going to have to stab harder Gail. I have much thicker skin than that. My little unfocused personal blog is not about building up worth with an eventual sale in its future, unlike others. No, it’s just a personal blog that helps establish me and assists in my freelancing endeavors, nothing more. I make my money writing others content for them. I don’t need to sell space, or spend my time amusing sycophants on every social network available, or prove how great I am by showing everyone how many people I can get to follow me on Twitter, or tout my PR like a badge.

Ironic though, you being the Pr 4 Pro Marketer, yet a nobody such as myself has shown just how thin your knowledge really is.
Shooting the messenger never works very well, and it won’t work here either. Insult and insinuate if you must, but it changes nothing.

“We are live and let live kind of people so we’ll let you do your thing and we’ll do ours.”

You have no say in what I do Gail. You “let” me do nothing. And if I think what you are doing is wrong, I will say so. All of this irrelevant focus on the value of advertising is as I said, pointless. The point is, as it has always been, you guys made a mistake and crossed the line. You should never have used the contest participants to produce free advertising for your sponsors.

I seriously doubt there is much to be gained as far as traffic goes by “creating controversy” over the Comluv contest as you put it. People are not going to be that interested.
I also don’t doubt you haven’t the time to sit here and answer comments. After all, you’re busy putting in time elsewhere, answering comments.

Hi Paul,

I debated whether to even answer you again; however, instead of answering I will add these few points:

Even though in the past I have easily earned $100/hour accepting all the paid work I desired, today I give away most of my time assisting businesses and bloggers.

Andy created CommentLuv which has put many bloggers who would otherwise never be seen online a free, easy way to grow their blogs. CommentLuv is popular and therefore has a lot of overhead yet still free.

Hesham did know that the contest would increase traffic and visibility for all involved and I guarantee he has more than earned that increase in the enormous amount of work involved.

If you want to think we’re all evil and taking advantage of bloggers, suit yourself. We will continue to do what we believe is for the good of all.

P.S. Many blogs including this one have threaded comments turned on. If you click reply under the comment you’re replying to your reply will appear under it.

Question: How do you avoid people posting just to get the commentluv, and not really caring what the post and resulting conversation are about? Or do you take an Eastern philosophical approach: give (comment)luv and it will come back to you – maybe not directly, but over time it can’t hurt to give love.

I guess I look at it as an even karmic trade – if you give me a valuable comment that enriches the discussion, I will give you the link. 🙂

I’ve taken the stance that if a comment doesn’t relate to the conversation then I delete it unless I know the person leaving the comment.

You can also go with the “let it slide” philosophy too. However, more comment spam is automated and you’ll find that you get more of it over time. If you have a live person leaving meaningless comments then it isn’t so bad, but the robo-comments are annoying.

I want to show something that I’ll have to put into my “duh” file. I’m still getting the Comluv newsletter. Lo and behold, they have a link in it to buy advertising on their site.

Here are their rates which according to the page, appear to be nothing more than text links. Not banners, not writeups, just text ads.

$25.00 for 7 days
$90.00 for 30 days
$150.00 for 60 days
$200.00 for 90 days

Pretty much in line with what I stated. I will give them the fact that their rates are on the low end of the spectrum.


Do you not have a delete key? If you hate these people so much, why are you still subscribed and trying to engage?

As to this comment, that is for a PR6 megasite. You have a PR0 piddlin site. There is just no comparison, dude. Give it up and walk away.

Thanks for the resources under “Where to Find…” I really appreciate them!

Sure wish I could figure out how to get CommentLuv to show my latest posts when I’m commenting on my own blog… It would be nice to have the cross-posting power. Sigh. Must be the WordPress theme I’m using.

Back to exploring CommentLuv!

I also love commenluv blogs. But the things is: I always tend to get the message “No last blog post to return” message when making comments. What I would have hoped for, is to actually get my last blog post a backlink too. I am strongly thinking of changing my theme as I think that has something to do with these errors.

That (would) be the reason why I like the feature of the plugin. But now I currently don’t get deep links to my blog.
Sad, sad story.

Great, detailed post. Thank you.
I use Comment luv and I do “luv it”. I went and signed up at the Comment Luv website and now I get the choice (out of 10) of which post to show. This way it is the most recent relevant post. I really do love that feature of it….

It is not only great for commenting and showcasing your content, it is also great to attract people to your blog. I am hooked!

Quite a good comprehensive article, I enjoyed reading it. I’m glad to see that, more or less, I tend to follow the author’s advice on the best use of this useful feature. The commentLuv webplaces are a great addendum…and I’m going now to take a look at them!

I installed commentluv plugin on my blog but when i checked google for idexed pages on my blog, tons of cummentluv plugin error is appearing, so i disabled it for the meantime, any idea on how to fix this issue?

I recently added comluv to my site and absolutely love it! Yes the spam has also increased but so have valid comments. this has also increased my traffic and now I can reach more people!
I also am a big fan of the directory listings – this helps out bloggers trying to optimize their blog and reach new readers

Commentluv is amazing and why I turned away from Disqus comment system. I want to know when a commenter has a blog that I can check out too.

It’s an amazing resource to put on a blog.
I don’t avoid commenting on blogs that don’t have commentluv but it’s definitely a plus when a blog does have it set up.

Blog comments have been heavily abused because they are seen as a quick and easy way to get your hands on a do-follow link. But people tend to forget how much potential blog commenting has, if it’s done the right way.

It gives you the opportunity to voice your opinion (in a constructive way), make suggestions, point out things the post author might have missed and build a reputation as an expert (or at least somebody interesting) in your field.

It also gives you the chance to interact with the rest of the blog community, get some real life human visitors over to your website (woohoo!), and maybe even build a mutually beneficial relationship with the blog owner!

I like commentluv because it strikes a balance between the site owner and his/her community. Anyone that wants to leave an insightful comment gets the reward of a do-follow link. And because a do-follow link is on offer, the site owner attracts more potential participants, more traffic, return visits, subscribers and so on.

I think this blog is one of the best I’ve seen in terms of striking that balance. There are still a few comments that I probably wouldn’t approve (but that’s just me), but with so much great content you must need a full-time comment approver!

Thanks Kristi – for this explanation of CommentLuv.

Somehow I find that site so confusing.

I still don’t understand why my account sign in at CommentLuv is a WordPress admin login. Maybe you have covered that here – and I just need to reread your post.

But I think I am on info overload – will revisit again later! 🙂

Even that I have not used CommentLuv in a while, I know it is a powerful tool to send more traffic to your sites and to help you on your SEO and PR efforts.

One of the main things that impress me from this plugin is that I was able to select my own keywords for very specific Domains. Of course that is not free but I think is worth the money.

Cheers to you Kristi.


I’ve been blogging for a while, but all the comments I get are spam…now that i’ve blocked spam I get no comments…i’m hoping that comment luv will jump start my comments with valid commets. Any other ideas?

I think the best part about Commentluv is that it is a two way street. It encourages you to leave valuable comments that helps out the blog own and rewards you with a link back to your website. It certainly is a better solution than normal commenting that results in tons of spam.

Hi Kristi,

I love commentluv!! I’m sure you are aware, but not sure if your readers know about the new release of commentluv premium. I just wanted to share how much of a difference it has made for my blogs.

I’ve had 3 posts go viral in only the past couple of weeks – which has meant huge traffic spikes, and yes… some much needed sales. Perfect leading up to the festive season.

CommentLuv Premium is like the old CommentLuv – but on steroids. Because it’s 8 plugins in one it actually replaces some of my old plugins which were really slowing down my loading time. My site used to take 8.5 seconds and now only takes 3.75 seconds to load. It might not sound big, but that is huge in the eyes of the search engines.

It has made a big difference to me and I would recommend bloggers with wordpress self hosted blogs to check it out.

Thanks for the great post on reasons to love commentluv blogs – I’m totally with you!!!

Hi Kristi,
CommentLuv is a excellent tool to promote commenting. However, it should be managed under know and published comment rules.
As a blog owner that needs to defend our ranking, I only publish comments related to the subject of the post.
As a commentator that loves and uses CommentLuv, I only use it when I have posts that related to the article that I’m commenting. And everyone wins with this strategy.

Do you agree?


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